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Post by CampKohler on May 16, 2014 21:31:43 GMT -8
Thanks for the catch, Leonard. Just when M seems to disappear in the woodwork, she pops back up again. If you visit the Video Index topic, you will find four new videos, three of which are M's. You get to see Gorby and Mishka and the real alpha dog, her hubby-to-be. Actually, M has taken pains to keep his face out of the videos. He appears to be a handyman type, but the drawer rollers in the Makeup video sound like the door hinges to some ancient dungeon or maybe Jack Benny's vault; they could stand a good lube. From the folded up cardboard boxes awaiting recycling, it appears M has moved in lock, stock and barrel. In the the first video of the series, she appears to be on the fence about whether she will make any more word videos. The YT comments are screaming for them, so who knows. Capman911 made a welcoming comment. |
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Post by CampKohler on May 20, 2014 18:27:20 GMT -8
Another video in the new domestic series of five has been added to the Video Index, this one featuring M wrassling potted plants. A horrendous shriek results when hubby-to-be playfully aims a hose over her expensive video camera.  |
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Post by CampKohler on May 21, 2014 16:43:16 GMT -8
Another fairly fluffy video is up. I'll let you be the judge of its value. I suppose we are running on quantity here versus quality. |
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Post by CampKohler on May 24, 2014 10:21:49 GMT -8
1. In a video comment, I blasted M for applying the term "channel" to this series of videos. Channel is a well-defined YouTube term and one would think a philologist would resist—or be immune to—the temptation to pollute its meaning by using it in a different way. Next she will be calling her dogs "videos" and say "Oh look at my videos" or some such.  2. When researching this problem: Searching for "marina orlova" (the channel name) pulls up most of her videos. Ordering by upload date, two recent videos, namely, "How to paint your mailbox...." and "I'm a hole digger...." do not show. Yet when searching "orlova paint" or "orlova digger", the videos show as one would expect. There are 6 recent videos after a long hiatus, so one would think that searching by channel name and sorting by upload date would produce them all. Why are these two videos not in the results? I am trying to understand how the search works more than what is different about these videos, but obviously, the two could be related. I found this reply to another Google help thread:
If you know a user's name, use a minus sign in front of the name and include it as a search term. i.e. I can enter "philologists -hotforwords" and get my list without Marina Orlova's vids from her hotforwords account.
Now was he just using M as an example, or is he really down on her (in the negative sense)? 3. Speaking of YT, we can now edit our video comments (vs. copying and deleting an old comment and adding it back in as new in order to edit it). Also there is no more prohibition to links in comments, so you can dispense with that some-site-name(dot)com nonsense to fool the software. So, if you have any of those in old comments, you can edit the disguised URLs into true URLs and it will form a link. I guess they finally caved after realizing that we would just get around their silly blocks no matter how hard they tried. |
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Post by CampKohler on May 27, 2014 11:41:46 GMT -8
The number of M's YouTube channels has decreased from four to two (forcing a very tedious rewrite of the channels & playlists topic). The three new channels had duplicates of the main-channel videos as their content. Looking at YT a few days ago, the "UCR" channel no longer exists, and the "UCE" channel has been suspended. What follows is the suspension notice you see and an excerpt from the terms of service that might possibly have caused it (all the other listed TOS don't seem to apply).  I theorize that YT didn't appreciate the technique of creating a new channel and loading it up with the old content from another. Perhaps after "UCE" was suspended, M deleted "UCR" voluntarily to avoid another suspension. But "UC4" and its duplicate videos still exist, so what is one to make of that? Other than the facts of what is seen when one accesses the new channels, everything else above is a guess. BTW, one of the TOS is not to repost another YouTuber's videos. However Sam K's copy of M's "staircase" video (see the Video Index) saved it from disappearing forever. Let's hope YT doesn't open a can of copywrite on him. |
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Post by mijj on May 27, 2014 12:34:32 GMT -8
more wacky M hijinx!
I guess she's floundering cos she no longer has her technical director. (wild guess)
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Post by CampKohler on May 27, 2014 13:48:04 GMT -8
mijj: I don't know if she ever openly had a technical director, unless you mean Teacher's Assistants, such as Capt. Jack. I always thought all the fine details of running a Website was a bit beyond her experience and interest.* I have always felt she had some minions in the background doing the Webmaster stuff.
Lisa Nova, M's buddy, who has appeared on the HFW Website in the past, has a new video which sends up M and DeFranco. She does a fair job. and her two puppies are a joy to behold. See what I mean?
*In the gardening video, at about 05:45, she encounters two tools, reading the mfr's labels as though she was reading heiroglyphics off the side of a UFO that had just landed in her back yard. In other words, things technical are not of natural interest to her, else tools would not be such a strange thing to her. |
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Post by Elmer on May 27, 2014 19:28:19 GMT -8
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Post by CampKohler on May 31, 2014 15:17:48 GMT -8
I have discovered YouTube doing discovering. They find a bunch of videos with "Marina Orlova" in the title, scoop them up and create a phoney channel—called a Topic—to hold them. As you can imagine, there are errors in execution when a computer does it; for example, all of the Russian actress Marina Orlova's videos were scooped up as well. However, their description of the Topic only mentions M. A section for this has been added to channels topic. Sometimes this automated process creates more than one channel for the same subject. I guess the left arm-like appendage doesn't always know what the right one is doing. |
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 1, 2014 15:50:04 GMT -8
I am currently working on an upgrade to the Video Index that will include the videos of the Hot4words channel, which I don't think is on the HFW site. Will take hours of work. Later.
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Post by captainjack on Jun 3, 2014 17:06:47 GMT -8
mijj: I don't know if she ever openly had a technical director, unless you mean Teacher's Assistants, such as Capt. Jack. I always thought all the fine details of running a Website was a bit beyond her experience and interest.* I have always felt she had some minions in the background doing the Webmaster stuff. No she never had a technical director. She did it all herself. If she didn't know how to do something she would email me or some other expert. Its really not that hard once you get into it. This forum is a good example for the look and feel when we are creating a new post. Every week she was learning a new tool or plugin. When we switch to the new servers, the host did all the tech work moving the site over. I still have full admin privileges. She has not removed me from the website. Though it again has been relocated. Not all the plugins are listed. I guess they weren't compatable with Wordpress.com servers. That said, it seems to me she had some sort of breakdown. She not on her game as before. Its almost like I looking at another person. Captain Jack |
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Post by captainjack on Jun 3, 2014 17:13:01 GMT -8
Is she getting married? Why isn't he in the videos? Doesn't make any sense. Maybe hes just a friend or her brother.
CJ
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 3, 2014 18:15:33 GMT -8
According to M, she is engaged and calls her beau her fiance. By the look of all the flattened cardboard boxes next to the garbage cans, it looks like she moved in lock, stock and puppies. He IS in the videos (just not his face), and he isn't Russian by the sound of him. (See my post from the previous topic.) I see so many things messed up with the HFW site that I couldn't believe that she did all the technical undertakings of the past herself. Why are new accounts turned off for the site? Why are 2011 blogs listed on the home page instead of the 2013 (latest) blogs? Why did she put up that recent T-shirt sales blog and fall down completely on her own site site where they were supposed to be sold? Why does she make mistakes such as not scrupulously following previous filename formats when adding new blogs? Yadda, yadda, yadda. |
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Post by captainjack on Jun 3, 2014 18:46:54 GMT -8
She said the same thing about her last boyfriend. He ended up being a jerk to her and they spit up. Like she mention she's done with words. The only reason she maintains the website is its her resume. You never know she might get a call from some big wig company to do a show or get in on an interview. I did a lot of work keeping the website up. I never received a dime for all the years I worked for her. She did send me one of her old laptops, a calendar. One of my TAs bought me one of her books for she never sent me one. I didn't' want any money at first for it was just a hobby. At the 3rd year it became more work than fun. So basicly I'm not fixing things anymore. Neither is she. Hotforwords is over. Its done. Stick a fork in it. History. Now she's just making stupid videos that barely make 600 total views. Hell, my International Space Station video has over 33,000 views and its crap.  CJ |
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 4, 2014 11:33:05 GMT -8
To sum up, I guess we can start calling this forum The Buzzard's Nest as we pick through the bones of the HFW empire looking for some dried-out grizzly bits of meat that got missed and are still edible.  |
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Post by Elmer on Jun 5, 2014 23:21:02 GMT -8
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 7, 2014 0:33:07 GMT -8
Elmer, that link you posted is 404. So I went to the domain name and found that the old site is gone. Wow. The HFW site has really been torqued over. Let's hope it is a work in progress and that it won't remain as is. The main menu items are: • Home - Looks like a clunky 2008 version of the previous site. Could that be where it came from? Has WordPress been dumped? • My Art - Links to her art on the home page of marinaorlova.com. • Press - Links to a collection of press logos at marinaorlova.com. • Bio - A 2008 bio. • Video Gallery - A list of links to videos of 2007/2008. • Contact - The current E-mail address. • Newsletter - Links to the signup page at FHM. What th...? • Donate - Just looks to be an unused page. All in all, this is not an auspicious beginning; the old site was better. Perhaps it will get straightened out. Captain Jack, does the above look like her level of competency or is it worse?
YouTube author PlayBYify has a new compilation of M photos. Take a look at 01:20. Is that for real? |
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Post by captainjack on Jun 7, 2014 3:11:32 GMT -8
All in all, this is not an auspicious beginning; the old site was better. Perhaps it will get straightened out. Captain Jack, does the above look like her level of competency or is it worse? PlayBYify has a new compilation of M photos. Take a look at 01:20. Is that for real? I don't know what is going on. I emailed her and got no response. She knows all to well how to build a website. There is a little S in the tab, which I think the website has once again been moved. Maybe she sold the company and some guy is trying to make a buck out of it. Who knows. My page still works hotforwords.com/ta/ but I can no longer see my post. hotforwords.com/category/ta/ There is no way for me to log in either. I would speculate now that I have looked at Marinaorlova.com that she is trying to get people over to her new website while keeping her old links to her past fame. Fuck I don't know.. It doesn't make any sense. CJ |
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Post by Elmer on Jun 7, 2014 4:29:14 GMT -8
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Post by reddragon on Jun 7, 2014 7:13:37 GMT -8
KC, in the PlayByify video, the mystery cameo at 1:20 is apparently the other Marina Orlova, Russian actress. They probably stuck that in to see who is paying attention.
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 7, 2014 18:53:13 GMT -8
I think you're right. The eye color is wrong for one thing. I think I'll ask him.  |
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Post by leonard on Jun 8, 2014 4:07:20 GMT -8
It has been fun with the different presentations concerning communication!
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pharm out!
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Post by mijj on Jun 8, 2014 6:24:08 GMT -8
the big draw for me on the old site (before i dropped out) was the community there. The videos the M put up was the glue that stuck it together and gave it character and atmosphere. A site that is nothing but a gallery of videos is worthless. There seems to be some kind of "cocomment" thing - it seems to be a means of providing M with worship, but that's no basis for community.
I have no idea about the background to M's old site. Ie. how much she was actually involved in designing it, setting it up, running it, etc.. But, from what has been on display since => I don't think M, on her own, has much of an idea of anything beyond "i want to be glamorous and famous". Which is why the revamped site won't be up to much.
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Post by mijj on Jun 8, 2014 6:33:22 GMT -8
how come i never get notifications of replies from this site?
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Post by mijj on Jun 8, 2014 6:48:05 GMT -8
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 8, 2014 13:11:53 GMT -8
mijj: > "how come i never get notifications of replies from this site? You should be able to set up detailed notifications from the Profile tab in the page-top menu. Is your address correct there? You can get one msg per day. I don't think I have ever received an E-mail, so I will start looking to see if it is working. PM me with how it works out. > "how much she was actually involved in designing it, setting it up, running it, etc." M's Webmastering abilities were discussed earlier in the thread. ---- PS: Is your keyboard's Shift key broken? |
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 11, 2014 12:23:47 GMT -8
The HFW site's new old style (material from 2007 - 2008) shows the original comments for each blog, but uses the old WP logins with its problems and lack of new accounts. The first HFW lesson gives a link to a semi-funny video parody:
I am now putting into the Video Index all of M's commercial venture videos littering the YT landscape, including 90 with RT America. One of them had the off-screen voice of M's old producer and Hotforwords, LLC partner. Do you recognize him from either his very old appearance in HFW videos or from his own YT channel politicalminute?  |
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 15, 2014 15:28:57 GMT -8
From Instagram: M admits to being a worm concentration camp guard! A lot has been done to the backyard, including adding a composter (or the right).  Perhaps the worms would be better off if the composter was to be placed in the shade. That black plastic looks like it would heat up in the S. Cal. sunshine. They need the same temp as humans. (I sent her a YT PM.) |
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Post by CampKohler on Jun 24, 2014 13:47:31 GMT -8
The Video Index RT-America-update project (a series of 90 Russian word and phrase videos) has now been completed. The Video Index bankrate.com-update project (as series of 12 banking and investment words) has now been completed. One of the videos had probably never worked, so I filled out bankrate.com's Contact Us form and clicked Submit. Nothing happened! I looked at the page source for the Contact Us page and the Webmaster's address was visible, which allowed me to contact him directly. A double whammy! Since the last HFW site revision, the indices there only cover two years, 2007 & 2008, there is now no complete index of HFW videos. The next project will be to recreate the index that was at the HFW site previous to the revision.  Things have been quiet since the spate of videos at the end of May. Too quiet! |
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Post by captainjack on Aug 10, 2014 12:17:02 GMT -8
Marina never had a producer. Her and I worked tirelessly on the website. She did have some help in improving her videos, but she did most of if not all the work. I had full access to the website. Many times I would edit her posts for spelling or grammatical error.
She was at the top of her game then. Today, I think she is burnt out. I also notice she wasn't herself just before she got cut on her arm. I noticed it in the emails we exchanged.
We were not as close as people may think. She had offered to come visit me in Seattle during her book deal. She asked if I wanted to go out for drinks or something. I said yes, but she never made it to Seattle. Later I had a teaching opportunity in LA county and move to Long Beach. Again we tried to meet up. I even went over to meet at a coffee shop just down the street of her condo up on the hollywood hill. She had made plans to fly out of LA and failed to tell me. I dropped off some treats for Gorby and some chocolate for Marina at her condo. She never thanked me for them as she normally has. She later apologized for not informing me of her trip. After that, it was like she was in another world. Then the terrorist hackers dug in and threaten to kill me. I hung up my keyboard and laid low. They accessed my personal bank accounts and showed me my current balances and past transactions as proof they had access. They did some other things Im not going to get into. But it was a scary time. Later on I tried to email her back and was met with no reply. She did email me once or twice since then. And then recently since she rebuilt the website. She doesn't talk to me as she use to. It like she lost 20 IQ points. Dumb down emails is all I get now. Its like she's heavy in drug use. We all know she smokes weed. But I feel shes been doing something else or she suffered a mental breakdown. Who knows?
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