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Post by CampKohler on Mar 21, 2013 16:19:06 GMT -8
This forum is a meeting place for all those HFW fans who can no longer log on to a blog at hotforwords.com. This is just a welcome thread; go to the top of the list for current active topic. Or visit one of the other topics.
Some history:
Up until about the last week of February 2013, and for well over a year, the HFW site has been using the DISQUS commenting system to receive/display comments to M's blogs. Then the DISQUS system disappeared and the site reverted to using WordPress' native comment system. This resulted in all users having to revert to their old (pre-DISQUS) log in. Unfortunately, many of those do not work, keeping out many users. Two of the lucky(?) ones are leoNard (a.k.a. l-p-r) and Evan Owen (a.k.a. EvanOwen98248), which are the only users visible in the comments of the latest blogs expressing their puzzlement.
Another unfortunate aspect of this fiasco is that the WordPress login dialog box that is now visible does not allow for the creation of new accounts. (I believe that this is due to an admin setting that was not turned on.) As a result, if one has determined that no old account will work, one cannot simply start a new one. Thus many users are locked out and will stay that way until the problem is remedied.
I have attempted to communicate this sad state of affairs to M via site E-mail and voicemails, but I have obtained no response. Her old BFF (and HFW CEO) Charles T. Como does not know what is going on, so I presume he is not able to contact her. I am trying to make contact via several persons known to work with her, and hopefully I will succeed.
My earlier plan for a "down-comms procedure" was to meet at the Redmeat BBS, but that was blasted to smithereens by virtue of the hosting company abandoning the ancient and venerable Webboard software that they were using (which was just peachy, completely usable and solid as a rock IMHO) and no longer consider viable. The estimated time to completion for a new BBS is given as "completely-unknown-so-don't-hold-your-breath." Evidently it is very low on their priority list. The phrase "pulling teeth" was heard.
Meanwhile, I am inviting HFW users by any means available to get together here for the duration. I am just starting to poke around Freeforums and learn their system. There are a lot of options!
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Post by capman911 on Mar 21, 2013 18:20:49 GMT -8
Maybe you or we can find some more the old clan to join.
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Post by CampKohler on Mar 23, 2013 10:39:28 GMT -8
 Good to see your smiling face! I have been perusing old material, looking for old HFW user names, like Neuroway,, Che Volay, etc. Then I will try them out on HFW and see if I can guess the (obvious) passwords. If I can get on as just one, I'll leave a post directing everyone here until the problem can be solved at HFW. I tried several passwords on EvanOwen, but after a few I got a page that said just the word "error". Every attempt beyond that got redirected to the error page, so it was keeping track of failed attempts, and its memory survived browser & PC reboot and cookie loss, so it is keeping track of this at the server (IP address?). I will keep trying along those lines. I have also been trying to contact EvanOwen on DISQUS where he left posts at his local newspaper site. As soon as the moderator caught on to this, he deleted my post and sent all further posts to moderation. But I will try again using different E-mails. I am hoping that the mentions process will get through to his E-mail. If I can get through to him, he can then post a msg at HFW directing everyone here. Also I remember that girl that put some blogs on HFW back when. Maybe I can reach her and get through to M that way. Any other ideas are welcome. I feel like a little dog that has fallen down an abandoned sewer pipe and is trying to attract attention. Yip! Yip! PS: I just noticed that all the media attachments (pix) that we had with DISQUS are not visible with WP. I believe that that is due to the fact that the attachments were loaded to DISQUS' server. If we go back to DISQUS, I believe they will return. There's another reason this whole thing sucks. |
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Post by captainjack on Mar 23, 2013 19:46:41 GMT -8
Hi Guys!
Thanks to Capman911 telling me about this little forum. I really missed all our conversations. Things went horrible wrong between Marina, her friends, and enemies. I received many threats on my life and ID. Her CEO Charles did mention in a voice mail that there was in fact something horrible going on. I was so busy with things in my life at the time, I had to throw in the towel. To this day I have not logged in two years. It wasn't until about a month ago she commented on a photo I had posted on Instagram. Then about 3 or 4 days ago I sent her a pic of a neon sign that read "Word". She responded with a thank you. So in short, I can contact her. Just not sure if I can for I don't know if her enemies will strike at me again.
I told her that Disqus is a horrible system. I have used it in the past and had many issues. Also the customer support is horrible. Their is a log in page but it's hidden. I lost the URL when my laptop was stolen years ago. I'm sure I can find it again. BTW I used to be a computer programmer and white hat hacker. I know only a few tricks. I might still have my old master account. I was one step down from Owner in the security levels. Basically I could almost do anything I wanted short of deleting the whole website.
I see Marina moved back to LA from NYC.. Why I don't know but been seeing photos of LA that are current. Notice the palm trees in the background windows? Sorry just my detective mind working overtime.
CJ
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Post by CampKohler on Mar 24, 2013 15:49:58 GMT -8
Hi Captain,
If you can contact M, can you tell her: 1) Most people can't log in anymore due to the fact there is no registration procedure visible in WP as it stands. Even the get-a-new-password procedure won't work if your old username is gone. So unless one has a valid old account, you can't log in, and, evidently, few do. 2) Was DISQUS dropped intentionally or did something go wrong? 3) There are many technical errors that need looking into, but I'll save that for later.
If you can't contact her, can you still log in? If you can, see the above messages and post a redirect to here until things get figured out.
I would be very interested in learning what happened behind the scenes last year, even if you wanted to keep the details off of public forums like this one.
Probably the most important thing to do is to arrange for reliable comma in times of need, such as when something is wrong with the site. This scrabbling around for back channels is the absolute pits! There is a new telephone number at the page bottoms, but although it accepts voice mails, there is no response. Likewise the E-mail goes unanswered. I don't understand what is behind all this amateurish site management. M spent a lot of effort building up the brand only to let it decay to rubble. There is a new lesson up at YouTube, but no new lesson at HFW. Oh, woe is us! Can you shake some sense into that girl?
Stay in touch, amigo. (That's how they talk in Spainland.)
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Post by CampKohler on Mar 24, 2013 18:50:27 GMT -8
I have searched the site and can't locate the guest blogs by M's BFF, so they have been deleted (at least from the site; they could still be on YT). I wonder if they might still be there in the Wayback Machine? For that matter, I wonder if those half-dozen videos M pulled at the start of "The Troubles" are still there as well. Are YT vids archived, too? I'll look into it Tuesday; using an iPhone for the Web is exhausting and the library is closed on Mondays.
Ciao (which is Italian cat lingo)
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Post by captainjack on Mar 27, 2013 11:48:07 GMT -8
CK,
I sent her an email via normal channels and some others. If I don't get a response then I'll contact her via G+ which she is fact on. She commented on a dress photo I had posted on Instagram, which tells me that she hasn't completely blocked me out. Also I got that "thank you love it" via G+ with that neon sign.
As for Charles, I was told by her years ago that they are not romantically involved. I don't think they ever were. She was dating some other guy before she moved to NYC. I really don't pay much attention to her much anymore. She's lied to me a few times for whatever the reason, and it's put a bad taste in my mouth. Charles is just a filter for all her business things. Remember she wasn't a US citizen for at least 8 years.
Sorry I didn't respond right away to this post. Is there a way to get an email message that a new post has been made here?
CJ
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Post by captainjack on Mar 27, 2013 18:02:58 GMT -8
Update as of 18:45 Wednesday March 27th 2013. ;D
Marina responding to me. It was a very short email and her response was:
I'm working on redesigning the website.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
That's pretty much it.. It wasn't as cold as it sounds. She did ask how I was doing. I haven't responded but I guess it was a good 1st step oh her part. Or was it the 3rd?
CJ
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Post by CampKohler on Mar 28, 2013 16:34:28 GMT -8
Good news for a first step! I hope you can send her a short msg that we would like the number one priority to be restoring site access for the regulars and newbies. Even if the old WP accounts are corrupted—a couple still do work—getting the WP new account process to work is paramount. Then she could take her time about "redesigning the site*."
Have you been able to log in at HFW? It would be great if you could redirect the remaining sheep here (OE, Mijj, l-p-r) until WP is fixed.
re: M's fibs: surely we recognize that she is all Hollywood and likely always has been since she started HFW. Perhaps that was a prerequisite for success. Sad, but for truthiness, I think that you will probably have to stare her right in the eye. (If I ever get that chance, I'll report the "readings" I get. ;D)
re: E-mail notification: I looked, but couldn't find this yet. However I can manually send you an E-mail if there are any posts ("opt out"). (See the E-mail topic.)
Regards
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*I have to take that phrase with a grain of salt, because it has been around (on FB, I believe) for some time now.
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Post by captainjack on Mar 28, 2013 22:23:45 GMT -8
Oh this is what I can tell of the changes. The whole website has been moved over to wordpress.org. Which means, she isn't getting enough traffic to justify on using the high speed servers we had used in the past. I remember the bill was like $2,000+ per month. Wordpress.org is a free to low cost depending on traffic. I was able to log in under my old admin account so I still have some access. I know longer can see the stats of the traffic nor other admin tools. That's just the way wp.org works. It sucks basically. There is a link to the login page. I just guessed it and I was right on the money. hotforwords.com/wp-login.phpI guess the days of HFW is nearing it's end of the lime light. They always say you get your 15 minutes of fame and then you're a "Has Been". This is why I always tell people. If you ever start to make it big, milk it for everything you got for it won't last forever. Just like Florence Henderson of the Brady Bunch. She's a very wealthy has been. I'm going to meet with her next month and take her and family out on a boat ride. Florence is my friends aunt. She's coming down to visits with him. I think it will be an interesting boat ride. I'll try to get pictures.  She's had to re-invent herself after the Brady Bunch; and still is making tv and show appearances. Which Marina might have to do if YT isn't paying her bills. CJ |
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Post by CampKohler on Mar 29, 2013 16:03:04 GMT -8
CJ: Thanks for testing your ID. I'm surprised you didn't post anything.  I know about the WP shift, but didn't realize it was hosted by WP now. I can get to the log-in dialog box. The problem is that when the WP login does not work (as most don't), there is no way to create a new account. That ability may have to be turned on in the settings. Do you know how? Meanwhile, PLEASE post a comment in the latest blog: [glow=red,2,300]"All those who can't log in to this site (and those who can, too), please join us at a new emergency HFW forum at <a href="http://hotforwords.freeforum.net"> hotforwords.freeforums.net</a> until the site gets straightened out. Register and log in. Thanks!"[/glow] I hope you can post this right away. I don't think the days of HFW success are numbered at all, because what she offered will still be wanted. She needs only to get her act together and just do what she did before. It is that simple. Now if she refuses to do that, well, you are so dead right. |
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Post by captainjack on Apr 2, 2013 10:47:48 GMT -8
CK:
Well here's the thing. I'm kind of testing the waters. I don't want get back on the radar of the attackers. It was a horrible nightmare for me. Marina didn't do shit. Wait, take that back, she did contact her CEO Charles and he tried to call me. The stress of that year was compounded by witnessing two people commit suicide. Four other people passed away, including my grandfather. Im not even including 3 accidents that happen right down from my house in Cali. This all happen in one year. So Im a bit hesitant in making any posts or comments.
I'll ask Marina what she suggests. If it's not a good enough suggestion then I'll see if it's ok to post this forum link. I really can't push my weight around as I did in the past.
Yeah your right. It really up to her. I knew that because of my absents that the site would degrade. She took me for granted of all the work I did and all my hard working TAs. She got that hollywood attitude and hanging out with friends that have a strange look at the world. I wouldn't surprise me if she got a pet monkey like Justin B and Micheal J.
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Post by CampKohler on Apr 2, 2013 13:01:05 GMT -8
CJ:
I have posted an invitation to Mijj and LeoNard via FB. Perhaps they can post a redirect msg. (I don't understand at all what you have to fear about posting at HFW, but it's up to you, of course.)
If you are going to contact M, why not ask her why there is no WP Register button showing? If that were to taken care of, we wouldn't need this forum (except for emergencies).
If we are stuck with WP, I wonder if there is any way to imbed photos (vs. linking)? At least that works OK here.
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Post by captainjack on Apr 2, 2013 13:42:36 GMT -8
I just emailed Marina. Let see what she says.
I'm not in fear of Marina. Just the online attackers. Many of my online accounts were hacked. (I've recovered most accept my twitter account of 71,000 followers) My phone was ringing off the hook with threatening calls. I guess it was some kind of gang of hackers or very pissed off people. My computer was stolen soon after the attacks and I only had my iPhone to work from. I picked up a second computer and that also was taken. (its a long story im not going to go into.) Thankfully both of those computers have a very high level of security. Three failed attempts at login and the hardrive is toast.
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Post by mijj on Apr 7, 2013 20:20:04 GMT -8
heyyyyyyyyyy!
.. i thought i'd seen the last of youze guyz!
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Post by mijj on Apr 7, 2013 20:39:33 GMT -8
CJ: I have posted an invitation to Mijj and LeoNard via FB. Perhaps they can post a redirect msg. fortunately, i have rss alerts for HFW posts so spotted the message about this forum. (i ignore FB so missed your message there) I've tweeted VenomRock and Curledmoss .. do they have the same names in HFW? .. anyway .. this is all very exciting isn't it! .. intrigue .. madness .. shoot outs .. car chases!! |
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Post by captainjack on Apr 8, 2013 16:01:00 GMT -8
Welcome Mijj! Nope you can't get rid of us so deal with it! LOL!!
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Post by captainjack on Apr 8, 2013 16:02:03 GMT -8
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Post by venomrock on Apr 8, 2013 19:08:02 GMT -8
Hey guys! Cool to see a few familiar people from HFW old school. Yeah, I can't access Marina's site anymore and I guess I'm not the only one. You go away for a while and things sure do change drastically. You know, I hope she didn't forget some of you who helped her out a lot with the HFW site when it was running on par. It does take a lot of work and patience. And I'm referring to all of you who are here now! maybe some others will show up too. To me it seems like it's far far away from those days. But hey, It looks like Camp's got a nice setup here!  |
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Post by mijj on Apr 8, 2013 20:42:17 GMT -8
hey Venom n CapnJack!
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Post by rijk on Apr 9, 2013 13:19:31 GMT -8
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Post by CampKohler on Apr 9, 2013 15:40:51 GMT -8
Hey, Leonard & Mijj.
I'm gland you made it. Now if we can just get OwenEvan, maybe we can stomach this drought, no matter how lung it lasts.
We will need a new topic for general purposes. How should we arrange that? One topic that goes on forever or post a new one for each new blog at HFW? I'm partial to the latter. At least we can easily embed YT vids, so it would be a snap to duplicate each site blog. Would that piss off M enough to fix the site? I haven't heard anything back from Captain Jack yet about getting M to turn on new accounts in WordPress for us excluded weasesl.
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Post by leonard on Apr 9, 2013 20:19:04 GMT -8
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Post by rijk on Apr 12, 2013 12:10:43 GMT -8
anyone know what the Karma is on the left?
and the exalt / smite ?
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Post by CampKohler on Apr 18, 2013 17:03:36 GMT -8
anyone know what the Karma is on the left? and the exalt / smite ? See hotforwords.freeforums.net/index.cgi?action=display&board=forumtech&thread=16As technical stuff rears its ugly head, I am making a concerted effort to position it in the Forum Technical subboard. Hopefully a body of knowledge will build up there, rather than being scattered hither and yon where nobody can find it. |
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Post by rijk on Apr 19, 2013 9:10:27 GMT -8
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Post by reddragon on Jul 13, 2013 13:28:35 GMT -8
So CK sent me a message saying, "Os gwelwch yn dda peidiwch Cymraeg arnom ni." I had sworn off HFW forever. but how do I escape one of my mates who knows how to push my buttons?
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Post by CampKohler on Jul 16, 2013 17:21:53 GMT -8
The only buttons I know how to push is on a translator site. :-)
I truly believe the world is going to go all English someday. My sister just returned from a river cruise in Germany, Austria, etc. and she says everyone under 30 has learned English in school. On the other hand, maybe translating software will get so good, that will do.
Welcome, "back."
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Post by alx on Sept 3, 2013 14:35:27 GMT -8
the F***? oO
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Post by capman911 on Sept 17, 2013 17:46:25 GMT -8
Nah we are all still here some more than others. I am having my share of problems this year my wife has liver and pancreatic cancer and it's just days or maybe a week I have left with her after 35 years together. My children are taking it pretty hard as I do when I get by myself so I try to be strong in front of them to help them get by. Sorry to throw such bad news in the crowd I guess that's what happens when you get older. Love you guys talk to you latter.
Mike
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